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Loans to children

Parents making loans to children

1. Sad parents – no Parent to Child Loan Agreement

Mum and dad give their daughter, Joanne $800k to buy a house. She then marries the good looking Ken. Ten years later Joanne and Ken divorce. The house is still worth $800k. It is the only asset of the marriage.

Sadly, the Family Court gives Ken $400k. The Family Court is not interested that the money is a gift from Joanne’s mum and dad. Instead, lend the child the money. Do not make gifts to children. (Even if you die many years after their divorce your daughter still loses some of your money.)

2. Smart parents – legally prepared Parent to Child Loan

Mum and dad lend $800k to their daughter, Joanne. Joanne signs a legally prepared Loan Agreement built on Legal Consolidated’s website. Joanne purchases a house with the money. She marries the handsome Ken. Ten years later they divorce. The house is still worth $800k. It is the only asset of the marriage.

The Family Court is shown the Loan Agreement. The Family Court gives Ken nothing. This is because the assets of the marriage are nil. ($800k – $800k = nil.)

To protect your loan build a legally prepared Loan Agreement – on a law firm’s website. Homemade loan agreements may not work. They carry less weight with the Family Court and Bankruptcy Court. Why take the risk?

But I love my child – a Loan to my child seems harsh

There is nothing wrong with helping our children financially. It could be for their first car, grandchildren’s school fees, a holiday, medical expenses, non-concessional superannuation contribution or a property.

It is becoming more popular to help our children with a home deposit. But simply giving away the money has risks. It is important to protect the money in case your child:
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1. divorces
2. go bankrupt
3. suffer from drugs
4. vulnerable or suffer a mental condition
5. stop loving you – ‘King Lear’ gives his daughters his Kingdom for their love, they abandon him
6. you run out of money yourself, in your old age

Documenting loans to children

Never ‘give’ your children money. Always ‘lend’ them money ‘payable on demand’. Get it back if something goes wrong. Treat yourself like you are a bank, and your children are taking out a loan.

Creating a loan agreement for your children:

With loans to children, never rely on a verbal agreement. Press the above Start for free button and build a Parent lends Money to a Child Loan Deed.

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“Payable on Demand” seems a bit harsh for my loan to my son

Q: Under “Payment Date” I currently have your default words “Payable on demand as demanded by the Lender“. It does sound a little threatening. My situation is that I do not wish the loan to be repaid. But rather my son’s entitlement under my Will is reduced by the debt amount when that time comes. My son is a beneficiary in my Will, alongside with our two other children – equally shared.

A: You are at war, Neville Chamberlain. Your son is only one of the enemies:

  • The Loan Agreement is contested in the family court by your son’s first wife, second wife, current mistress and his gay partner – all at the same time.
  • The trustee-in-bankruptcy tries to attack the Loan Agreement.

War is ugly. Toughen up to Winston Churchill level. Do not be weak:

  • The Loan contract is the first and only line of defence
    You give everything away, upfront. This is the money. But Borrowers are yet to perform their side of the bargain. This is to pay the money back. So the Lender is at a disadvantage. Yes, the Loan Agreement is biased. But this is to protect the Lender. The Loan Agreement is all that the Lender has.
  • Does your son (and his wife) feel that the Loan Agreement is disrespectful and Draconian?
    Does your son refuse to sign it? Your son wants to get out a blue pen and draw a line through some of the ‘offensive’ wording? 

Dad, let me be clear. Your son either signs it, as it is drafted. This is by your lawyers, Legal Consolidated. Or you do not lend him the money.
Your son and his wife are free to go off to their bank, instead. At the bank, the young man will be taught manners.

  • When the Family Court and Bankruptcy Court review the Loan Agreement it needs to be couched in the terms of a legally prepared Loan Agreement
    A wishy-washy ‘friendly’ Loan Agreement is more likely to be ignored by not on your son, but by others. Further, a law firm’s logo on every page of the Loan Agreement carries weight.
  • Clearing the debt at your death
    As you correctly point out, your son’s entitlement is automatically reduced at your death. This is because you made the Loan Agreement ‘payable on demand’. And the executor merely demands the repayment – or rather a reduction of the what the boy was going to get under your Will.
    This saves having to make a new Will every time you lend a child some money. Or every time they pay some of the loan off.
    Keep these Child Loan Contracts with your Will. 
  • Finally, you may want the money back if you run out of money
    I am not sure if you are worth a billion dollars. But I have acted for billionaires that have run out of money. (Or rather, they get down to their last $100m.)
    Other clients pay over $1m a year to have:
    • A rotation of 6 nurses so that one is always, on duty, at their home or wherever they are. This is 24 hours a day.
    • And a GP on retainer ready to drop everything and attend at their home in Brisbane, or estate in Byron Bay.

Protecting vulnerable and young children tool kit

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Help son and his girlfriend buy a home –
the Parent Lends Money to a Child Loan Agreement

Q: The bank is lending money for my son and his girlfriend to buy a home. I am also loaning $283,000 to them.  We are going to do the same for our daughter when she gets older. How does the Loaning Money to a Child Agreement incorporate these expectations?

A: It does not. You are not writing a Charles Dickens novel here. You are merely lending $283,000 to your son. The Loan Agreement does not record what he does with the money. He may give the money to his Church. That is his call.

Consider the future loan to your daughter. You may die tomorrow. In which case, the loan to the daughter never happens. That is fine. Your son still owes you (or rather, your deceased estate) the money. So you are all square between your two children. Well done.

This stops you from having to redo your Will every time you lend money to a child.

Son buying a property 99% in his name. And 1% in his wife’s name. Who is the Borrower?

Q: I am lending money to my son to buy a property with his wife. Ownership will be 99% in my son’s name and 1% in my daughter-in-law’s name. There are no other debts. And the property will not have any mortgages. Should the Loan Agreement reflect this or is it not relevant? Who is the Borrower?

A: I need to make four points.

  1. You are not lending the money for any particular purpose. Your son may drink and gamble away the money. Or he may burn the money. Or he may use the money to travel. A Loan Contract does not set out the purpose of the loan. You are just lending money. What the Borrower does with the money is up to them. It is none of your business. If you are not happy with that, then do not lend them the money.
  2. Both your son and his wife are the Borrowers. They owe the money 100% each. It is a ‘joint and several’ liability under the Legal Consolidated Loan Agreement. If the son goes bankrupt, the daughter-in-law normally remains responsible for owing you 100% of the money.
  3. The rule of thumb for a Loan Agreement is to lock in as many Borrowers as you can. The more people that agree to repay the debt the stronger your chance of getting your money back.
    So consider making both the son and his wife the Borrowers.
    If you can make his wife’s mum a guarantor, that would be nice. And, if the wife has an Uncle Harry then make Uncle Harry a guarantor as well. The more people owing the money or guaranteeing the debt, generally, the better your chances of getting your money back. 
  4. We are not giving stamp duty or tax advice. You need to speak to your accountant on such matters. And, it is none of the law firm’s business, and it is not relevant to the Loan Agreement but I am guessing that the 99% and 1% structuring is because of one of these reasons:
    • My son has wealth. His pretty dizzy wife has nothing. Therefore, I as the controlling father, want my son to own most of the property.
      Fair enough. However, be aware that after about 8 – 12 years the Family Court may order half or even all of the equity (if any) in the property to go to his ‘dizzy’ wife. We are not family lawyers. Speak to a family lawyer if you want more advice on this. (Legal Consolidated do not practice in family law. And we do not give advice on such matters.)
    • There is a land tax benefit in having 99/1%.
      I do not believe that is correct. I do not believe that this old strategy works in any Australian state or territory. (However, we are not giving any advice on tax matters. This is a general comment only.) Speak with your accountant on such matters.
    • My son is a stay at home father. His wife is a business person and, like all business owners, is at a higher risk of bankruptcy. So the 99/1% is for asset protection.
      We do not know your individual circumstances, but this is generally a good asset protection strategy. (I assume the 1% is in case your son ‘secretly’ sells the property under his wife and leaves the country. As she will have ownership (albeit only 1%) she must agree to the sale.) Again we are not giving advice on the protection of assets. And we are not giving advice on asset protection.

Does the Child Loan Agreement conflict with the bank lending money?

Q; I am lending money to my daughter and her partner. A bank is also providing them with a loan. The bank is lodging a mortgage over the property (Property). The Bank will not want our parental Loan Agreement repayable “on-demand”, such that we may get paid before the Bank does.

Does the Legal Consolidated Loan Agreement permit me to amend such document, to the satisfaction of the Bank? 

A: We do not give advice in this area. For a full understanding of the rights between other Lenders and you, speak with a securities or conveyancing lawyer.

Does the bank (with a mortgage over the home) need to know about this Loan Agreement?

Q: Our son and his wife of five years are renting a property. They are currently looking to purchase their own home.

I am loaning them $250,000 as a big deposit. Both our son and his wife are the Borrowers. So they will both owe me the money.

They will borrow a further $350,000 from a bank. The bank will put the first mortgage on the title.

Our son is a builder and like all business owners is at risk of going bankrupt. (We loved your asset protection strategies.)  Good asset protection suggests the home be put only in our son’s wife’s name only. 

  1. Does any first mortgage lender need to be consulted to see if they would allow our second mortgage?
  2. What happens if my son divorces and the home is solely in his wife’s name?
A: The Loan Agreement is a private family matter.

We do not provide advice in this area. You need to speak with a securities or conveyancing law firm. The information below is only general in nature:

  • You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how property settlements between a couple operate. The family court has little interest as to who legally owns the ‘matrimonial’ assets. The home could be in your son’s name, his wife’s name or a Family Trust. It makes little difference. The family court often puts all the assets in a bucket. It stirs the pot. It then pours out the assets as the family court sees fit. However, we are not family lawyers. You need to speak with a family lawyer.

How to lodge a caveat or mortgage using the Loan Agreement

  1. Build and sign your Loan to children Agreement.
  2. It contains the right to lodge securities, such as caveats and mortgages over the Borrower’s assets.
  3. But speak with your accountant and securities lawyer about lodging such securities.
  4. Your accountant or securities lawyer or conveyance can print out the Caveat or Mortgage form (free download from the titles office):
  5. Lodge the Caveat or Mortgage with the above relevant titles office.
  6. Other than South Australia, which is difficult to deal with, the relevant titles office helps you. Your conveyancer, settlement agent or property lawyer should be able to lodge the caveat or mortgage for you.

The evil Presumption of Advancement – unfair to dads!

The Australian presumption of law is that where a husband transfers property to his wife or his children then, in the absence of other evidence, the Court presumes that the transfer was a gift – not a loan.

In contrast, if the mum or child transfers money or assets to the dad then there is an assumption that this is a loan – not a gift.

A transfer from a father or a husband is presumed to be a gift, but not a transfer from a wife or a mother – this is presumed to be a loan to the father. A parent Loan Agreement to a child overrides this rebuttable presumption.

This is the case even if the couple is only engaged: Wirth v Wirth (1956) 98 CLR 228.

At Legal Consolidated, we take the view that this would also apply to de facto and same-sex couples under the authority of the Hong Kong case of Cheung v Worldcup Investments Inc [2008] HKCFA 78.

This has always been the law in Australia. We follow the English case: Grey v Grey (1677) 2 Swans 594; 36 ER 742.

When making loans to children:

1. talk with all your children together about the loans
2. never gift children money – only loan them money (this protects both you and them)loan agreement legal consolidated brett davies lawyers
3. do not rely on homemade loans, IOUs, minutes or journal entries. Instead, build a Legal Consolidated Loan Agreement

Child Loan Agreement on the back of an envelope?

In the movies, IOUs are often handwritten on a piece of paper. Sometimes instead of a Loan Agreement, someone does a ‘minute’. Both approaches fail. In Rowntree v FCT [2018] FCA 182 shows the additional care required to document even simple related-party transactions, such as loans. In this case, the taxpayer, a practising NSW lawyer, claimed he borrowed over $4m from his group of private companies. The Court said:

‘Mr Rowntree has not deliberately chosen to ignore the law. His evidence presented to the Tribunal suggests that he genuinely believed that there were arguments to support his view that a loan was in existence.’

He failed. Only a legally prepared Loan Agreement satisfies the ATO, Bankruptcy Courts and Family Court.

Cheeky son refuses to pay dad back – Berghan v Berghan

In Berghan v Berghan [2017] QCA 236 the son borrows money from his Queensland aged father. The son refuses to pay it back.

The son, in the first court case, successfully argues that the monies were given to him as a gift.  However, the Court of Appeal held that the amounts were loans.

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The son’s company suffers financial stress.  The son gets $98k from this Dad. The boy continues to borrow more money from dad.

Later, the son borrows his father’s credit card. The boy clocks up another $13k of debt.

First court case – child wins  – no child loan agreement

His Honour said that Dad failed to prove a legal binding agreement. There was no paperwork. There was no written loan agreement.  It was a gift.

The Judge said:

  • The son promised to look after his Dad in old age. But that was just a moral obligation.
  • Dad making the payments to the son, for the benefit of the company, is simply discharging his parental obligations. This is because his daughter is an employee at the son’s company.  The money is therefore of a charitable nature. Dad is protecting the son’s company so his daughter keeps her job.
  • Dad allows the boy to use the credit card when the boy was injured and impecunious.  These circumstances are charitable.

Good sense prevails in the Appeal – child loan agreement inferred

The Court of Appeal had a better sense:

  • The lengthy period it took Dad to make a demand for the money does not count against his assertion that a breach of contract existed. The Court held that post-contractual conduct is not taken into account when interpreting the terms of a loan contract.
  • The motive Dad had in transferring his son the money, be it “charitable” or otherwise, is not relevant.

The Court set aside the decision of the District Court.  The Court said that the monies are paid with an understanding that they would be repaid. This is an “inescapable conclusion”. The transactions are a contract of loan. The Court gave judgment in favour of Dad of $286k including interest.

This is another example of elder abuse. The decision shows the perils of not signing a loan agreement. Going to Court – twice in this instance – is expensive and exhausting for the aging father. 

Child buying home in partners name?

What happens if the home is purchased in both your child’s and their partner’s name?

Then both your child and their partner sign the Loan Agreement. They are both Debtors. 

The child loan expires – if a few dollars are not paid within 6 years

Q: I read your comments that loans expire every 6 years (e.g. the ACT). One way to ensure that it continues is for the borrower to make a $1 payment before the end of the 6 years. 

A: Yes. Or alternatively, get the Borrower to sign a Deed of Acknowledgement of Debt. That freshens up the 6-year limitation rule. (Three years in the Northern Territory.)

Buy a home just in the child’s name?

Q: My daughter is married. I am going to lend her money to buy a home. Should she purchase the house only in her name? How does this benefit my daughter or me?

A: Your question does not relate to building a Loan Agreement. We do not give advice on this area of law. Below are some general comments only:

  • Your daughter could borrow the money and give it to her church. Or burn the money out of spite. What she uses the money for is her business. The Loan Agreement does not require that she purchase a home.
  • Secondly, the Family Court cares little about whether your daughter or her partner is the legal owner of the property. Speak to a Family lawyer. 
  • But there is nothing wrong with lending the money to just your daughter. The Family Court and bankruptcy Court will generally acknowledge that you are owed the money.

Daughter and husband separate – is the loan taken into account?

Q: What if my daughter and her husband separate? The $1m home goes into the matrimonial asset pot. But does the Family Court take into account the debt? This is the Legal Consolidated Loan agreement ($200k) and the Bank mortgage (500k)? Therefore, is only the net figure of $300k available to the Family Court to share? ($1m – $700 = $300k equity)

A: We do not give advice on this area of law. You need to speak with a family lawyer.

Below is general advice only:

  • You are building the Loan Agreement with the expectation that the Family Court will reduce the ‘matrionial assets’ by the debt owed to you.
  • Alternatively, if you had no Loan Agreement then there is ambiguity. Was it a gift? Was it a loan? By getting your daughter (and her husband, if you can) to sign the Legal Consolidated Loan Agreement at least a day before you hand over the money you protect both your daughter and you.
  • Best to add both your daughter and son-in-law as the Debtors. This is as you build the Legal Consolidated Loan Agreement. So that both are responsible for the debt. The more people responsible for a debt the higher the chance you may get your loan repaid. It also stops the son-in-law from arguing that he knew nothing of the Loan Agreement.
  • What if the son-in-law (or daughter for that matter) does not want to sign the Legal Consolidated Loan Agreement? That is fine. Keep the money. And go on a holiday!

Should the home just be in the daughter’s name?

Q: How then is it more advantageous if the house and the loan agreement are in the name of my daughter only? How is keeping the partner out of it a benefit?

A: Again, we are not family lawyers. The family court puts everything in the pot. So, it may make little difference. But, as to the Loan Agreement, better to have as many people as possible be responsible for the debt.

Also, consider asset protection issues in having the home solely in the name of the ‘person of substance’. And not in the name of the high risk of bankruptcy husband.

But we are not giving advice on these areas of law. The above is general advice only.

Why is a caveat weaker than a mortgage?

We do not give advice on securities. We are only providing you with a Loan Agreement. The Loan Agreement authorises you to lodge and register securities.

A mortgage is similar to a caveat. But a Mortgage is the more secure and enforceable. A caveat is indeed weaker than a mortgage. However, for advice speak to your conveyancer or securities law firm.

Do I need to update my Will after I do the Loan Agreement?

You need to review your Will every few years. This is to make sure it still reflects your wishes.

However, you probably do not need to update your Will now that you have the Loan Agreement in place. In fact, an advantage of a Legal Consolidated Loan Agreement is that you do not need to keep updating your Will.

Let me explain, with this example:

Loving Dad is going to gift $300k to each of his three children. This is when they each buy their first home. Child one buys a home. And then child two buys a home. But before child three buys a home, Dad dies. The third child misses out on getting the $300k.

Instead, the loving dad lends the $300k as each child buys a home. So now child one and child two must pay back the $300k at dad’s death. So, child 3 does not miss out. The Loan Agreements correct the Will on a continuous basis. They make the Will fair. This is without the need to keep updating your Will all the time. (You get free Will and POA updates for the rest of your life. But you need to remember to update your Will.)

If all three children get the $300k then that is fine. The children are getting everything in Dad’s Will equally, anyway.

Also, if the child:

    1. gets divorced or bankrupt the Loan Agreement is beneficial
    2. actually pays back the loan (uncommon, but it does happen!) then the Will automatically self-corrects, the children are always treated fairly and equally with the Legal Consolidated Loan Agreements in place

What do you get when you build the Parent to Child Loan Agreement?

Press the ‘Start Building’ button above to get our:

1. Loan Agreement – ready to sign
2. Law firm’s letter of advice.

Press the above “Sample” button to see a sample

 

1Who is the Borrower?

The Borrower (child or a related party controlled by the child) is the entity (human or company) who is going to receive the capital (e.g. money) from the Lender (mum & dad, or one of their entities).

2Who is the Lender?

The Lender (mum and dad) is the entity (human or company) who is passing the capital (e.g. money) to the Borrower (child).
In this Parent to Child Loan Agreement, the parent (the Lender) is lending the money and the child (the Borrower). The child is the person borrowing the money.

3What do I get?

Why is it better to prepare my Parent Lending  Money to a Child Loan Agreement on a law firm’s website?
You are dealing directly with a law firm’s website, therefore you:

  1. retain legal professional privilege,
  2. Legal Consolidated is responsible for the Parent Lending Money to a Child Loan Agreement
  3. receive legal advice from us.

How do I build the Parent to Child Loan Agreement?

Start Building for free, the Loan to Child Contract
Read the free hints. And answer the questions on our website
Check your answers on the Summary page
Lock and Build your Loan contract
Type in your Credit Card details
The Loan Agreement, our covering letter and Tax Invoice are emailed to you within 60 seconds
Print and sign the Loan Contact
What do I get?

You also get an email containing the Parent to Child Loan Agreement:

Parent to Child Loan Agreement Document
Our law firm’s letter of advice is on our law firm’s letterhead and signed by one of our Partners.


4I do not know how much I'm lending.

Sometimes you do not know the amount that you are lending to your child. If you do not know you can leave it as the default answer; “as lent from time to time”.

If you do know but are paying it in instalments, then put it all in as one figure.

Otherwise, just put in the total figure. Remember to put in the dollar sign.


5What if I don't have a payment date?

Sometimes you might not want to set a specific date in the Parent to Child Loan Agreement. You can leave it as the default answer; “payable on demand as demanded by the Lender”. This gives you flexibility. You claim the money back if your child gets divorced or goes bankrupt. And your executor reduces their entitlement under your Will if you are dead.

If you want it all paid back on one date, just enter that date.

Word the Parent to Child Loan Agreement how you like. For example

1) “Payable in instalments of 10% per calendar month”

2) “Half to be paid on 21 September 2031, and the remainder to be paid on 21 September 2039”

3) “$100 to be repaid weekly for 10 weeks starting from 4 July 2038”


6What do I put in as the interest rate?

There are five ways you can answer this question depending on how you’d like to do it:

1) If you are charging your son or daughter no interest, put the word “Nil”

2) If you are not sure what the interest rate is yet, leave it as the default, which is “as demanded from the lender from time to time”

3) You can put in a flat rate, for example, “5%” (do not forget to put the % sign in)

4) Keep it variable, for example, “2% above the Commonwealth Bank interest rate”.

5) You can also use the inflation rate. In which case type in “calculated according to the percentage increase in the Consumer Price Index (all groups) for the average of the capital cities of the Commonwealth of Australia (as published from time to time by the Australian Bureau of Statistics or body that takes over that function)”.


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